Since Hodor has translated to ‘Hold the door’ can ‘Azor Ahai’ be ‘Azure Eyes’ thereby making Brienne the Prince That Was Promised?

Interesting idea ! You actually had me laughing out loud.

Once the laughing stopped, well, Hold the Door/Hodor could be used as the event which set the precedent for further such word-play.

Then a certain quote from a Bran chapter early on in A Game Of Thrones popped into my mind, the one which describes Jon’s skin as cold and hard.

“Finally he looked north. He saw the Wall shining like blue crystal, and his bastard brother Jon sleeping alone in a cold bed, his skin growing pale and hard as the memory of all warmth fled from him.” – A Game of Thrones, Bran

And then the ‘blue eyed king who cast no shadow’ quote danced across my brain. This is what I cam up with:

If Azor Ahai does turn out to be a translation of ‘Azure Eyes’, this opens the door for a bright blue eyed one to fit the bill but I do not think it would support Brienne.

‘Azure eyes’ would support another theory and could very well tie in the ‘blue eyed king who cast no shadow’ prophecy too.

Azure is described as a bright blue, summer sky-blue. In nature, azure sometimes has a touch of a purplish hue to it.

Gendry has vivid blue eyes, as does Brienne however I would not qualify either of them as azure. Perhaps Gendry ends up King at the end of it all but he will not fit the ‘cast no shadow’ part, a term commonly used for those who have died/are dead.

There are those who are described in the books as having bright blue eyes, as bright and blue as the summer sky, which fits perfectly with the definition of ‘azure’.

The show does a great job of portraying these bright baby blues ….. those pesky White Walkers have the closest match to a true ‘azure’ shade of eye color.

‘Azure eyes’ would more likely suggest either

  • a White Walker, or
  • Jon ‘Blue Winter Rose’ Snow who happens to be resistant to the ravages of Winter, much like the blue winter rose itself is, and therefore will not transition into a Walker if/when touched by the Walker King and instead will experience a shift in eye color to bright ‘azure’ blue, allowing him to fulfill the prophecy of Blue Eyed King Who Casts No Shadow.

“Finally he looked north. He saw the Wall shining like blue crystal, and his bastard brother Jon sleeping alone in a cold bed, his skin growing pale and hard as the memory of all warmth fled from him.” – A Game of Thrones, Bran

How does this tie into Azor Ahai and bright blue ‘azure’ eyes?

One could view this above quote as foreshadowing of Jon’s death which occurs in book 5 (ADWD) however there are three main reasons I suspect there is a possibility this quote above is foreshadowing a ‘death’ Jon will experience later in the series, a death we have not yet seen or read, a death after his death at the Wall by his Nights Watch brothers, a death in which he only partially transitions into a White Walker.

1. The similarity in wording GRRM chooses to describe White Walkers & Jon in Bran’s dream:

• White Walker: hard as old bones, with flesh pale as milk

• Jon: his skin growing pale and hard

Notice the use of ‘hard’, ‘pale’ and skin/flesh are the key descriptive elements of each character – ‘hard’ skin/flesh is so not a living human trait, so why has GRRM applied it to Jon Snow?

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2. There is no reason why Jon’s skin would grow ‘hard’ upon death if he were a ‘normal’ human. Rigermortis is a stiffening of the muscles, not a hardening of the skin tissues. An easy thing to overlook as the mind will tend to see the words ‘hard’ and ‘death’ in a sentence and immediately associate those words with rigermortis.

3. Jon is described in the quote as ‘sleeping’, not as ‘dead’. It is a little word detail but the choice to use the word ’sleeping’ for one who is in the same breath described as having hard skin is likely planned and deliberate. Placing a trait associated with the living or things that are alive (such as sleeping) on one who we are led to believe is dead is a thing we find GRRM doing throughout the series.

Jon is not dead in this quote, despite the hard cold skin, he is very much alive.

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Since TWOW is not yet out, there is always the possibility we find Jon’s physical reaction to being stabbed to death at the Wall may in fact be quite different than the average human – his wounds were literally smoking on page in the books, in the way the dragons wounds smoke when they are injured. A major detail the show completely left out.

Perhaps Jon does not die as a standard issue Westerosi human would. Perhaps Jon Snow’s skin does turn pale and hard, hard as bones with flesh as pale as milk and yet he keeps on living despite the ravages of winter …. like the blue winter rose.

Since Hodor has translated to ‘Hold the door’ can ‘Azor Ahai’ be ‘Azure Eyes’ thereby making Brienne the promised prince?

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