Is it true that Daenerys Targaryen had diarrhea in ASOIAF? If so, how was that plotline resolved and how did it affect the character?

Yes Daenerys had diarrhea in A Dance With Dragons, but what is more significant is that Daenerys had moonblood!!

Daenerys had a miscarriage, brought on by the berry poisoning and the resulting diarhhea. This event is proof Daenerys was months pregnant with a living child.

In the prophecy by Mirri Maz Duur, she states Daenerys must ‘bear’ a living child. Technically speaking, ‘to bear’ means ‘to carry’, it does not mean to give birth to. 

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ASOIAF: Why were iron and bronze the chosen metals of The Kings of Winter? Why are they said to be ‘strong and dark to fight the cold’ ak…

The Real Reason Iron & Bronze Are the Metals of Winter

Bronze and iron are the metals of winter, of the Kings of Winter, which we learn both through Robb’s comments and again through Catelyn’s comments in A Clash of Kings:

‘bronze and iron were the metals of winter, dark and strong to fight against the cold’ – A Clash of Kings, Catelyn I

Another reason for the importance of iron is supported by Old Nan who tells us the White Walkers:

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ASOIAF Is there any significance or dual meaning behind the reason the bones of the Starks are buried in sepulchres in the crypts of Wint…

My answer to ASOIAF Is there any significance or dual meaning behind the reason the bones of the Starks are buried …

Answer by Ava Monroe:

The Secret Dual Religious Aspects and Implications as Suggested by the Presence of the Stark Bones in the Sepulchres, Combined with the Deeper Definition and Meaning of ‘Sepulchres’ which are Specific to the Crypts of Winterfell

There are a number of characters from the Holy Bible which I believe GRRM has drawn inspiration from and has represented rather beautifully in his A Song of Ice & Fire series. The deeper definition of the word sepulchres and the Starks in the crypts helped me tie it all together. Here goes my theory….

The Crypts of Winterfell, Death & the Stone Starks

Upon death, the bones of the King of Winter, aka Lord of Winterfell, are buried in stone sepulchres in the enchanted crypts, which are placed behind a giant stone likeness of the dead Stark. This stone Stark giant is seated on a stone throne, and a giant stone direwolf is carved and placed at the feet of each stone Stark.

  • “…Flickering light touched the stones underfoot and brushed against a long procession of granite pillars that marched ahead, two by two, into the dark. Between the pillars, the dead sat on their stone thrones against the walls, backs against the sepulchres that contained their mortal remains – A Game of Thrones, Eddard I

This visual sounds a lot like the Valley of Bones from the Christian Bible. While burying one’s bones in a stone sepulchre is not necessarily significant at first glance, and was practiced throughout history in the past, when we take a deeper look at the alternate meanings of the word ‘sepluchre’, we can find more sneaky deaky GRRM wordplay clues, foreshadowing some very intriguing aspects to the Stark bloodline….. religious aspects, which lead us to a few significant juicy reveals.

A sepulchre is defined as:

  • a place of burial, a tomb; (crypts of Winterfell)
  • a crypt (crypts of Winterfell)
  • a receptacle for religious relics especially in an altar

Whoa whats that?

Religious relics are located in the crypts of Winterfell?

Could the bones of the Starks truly be religious relics?

It is this 3rd definition of sepulchre which got me digging like a mad-woman.

Let us say for arguments sake, GRRM is into duality in the form of dual meanings (along with so many other aspects of duality we find riddled throughout the series).

If we consider this possibility, the definition of ‘sepulchre’ has one heck of a powerful double meaning, as does the word ‘relic’.

A relic is defined as:

  • a corpse; remains (the Starks in the crypts)
  • a surviving memorial of something past (the Starks in the crypts)
  • something cherished for its age or historical interest (the Starks in the crypts)
  • an object of religious veneration, especially a piece of a body or the personal item of a saint; something associated with being holy

Here we find nestled within the definitions of both ‘sepulchre’ and ‘relic’ there exists the possibility of a religious aspect CONNECTED to the BONES of the STARKS.

A religious relic implies an element of holiness.

In this case, since we are addressing the bones of the Starks, this implies the Starks are in some way connected to:

  • God, or
  • a greater power,
  • and/or possess an aspect of holiness.

A saint is one regarded as possessing a likeness or similarities to God, one with a degree of holiness about his or her being.

While many comments we hear regarding the Kings of Winter imply they were oh so very far from ‘saint-like’, the kicker that puts a different spin on things can be found in the way in which one becomes a saint:

  • a living human cannot become a saint
  • sainthood can only be achieved upon death.

Upon death the bones of the dead Starks are buried in an enchanted crypt and a change or shift does appear to occur once this happens as those stone Starks are not ‘dead’ in the traditional sense, as in the books they are given attributes which are associated with the living, things that are ‘alive’.

  • Upon death and burial in the Crypts, do the Starks of Winterfell go through a partial resurrection of sorts?
  • A resurrection of the soul, not the body?

Resurrection is a direct connection to a higher power, or God of some kind.

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ASOIAF characters which GRRM has drawn inspiration from the Holy Bible:

Fallen Angels from Heaven on the side of Light

  • the Kings of Winter and Lords of Winterfell, the Starks, who are buried underground in the ‘Valley of Bones’ aka the Crypts of Winterfell. (They will rise from the crypts as Stark Stone Giants and fight the White Walkers. When/if they succeed and the Walkers are destroyed, these Starks succeed in rightng a terrible wrong from long ago – this will link to the White Walkers – which will result in the release of the Stone Starks ‘vengeful spirits’ from their earthly underground chains, allowing the Stark spirits to rise up and go wherever spirits go.)

Fallen Angels from Heaven on the side of Darkness

  • White Walkers

The Grigori who Watch over Mankind, Protecting humans from Darkness

  • The Watchers on the Wall (now check out their vows with this in mind)

Jesus of Nazareth, Saviour of the Souls of Mankind

  • Jon Snow, Saviour of Mankind, who wields the sword forged from a fallen star from the Heavens (Dawn), which transitions into Lighbringer, enabling Jon to save mankind from Darkness.

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Starks in the Crypts of Winterfell are ‘Alive’ – Their Spirits Resurrected

Those stone Starks in the crypts certainly are not ‘dead’ in the traditional sense, yet in the books are given many attributes which are associated with the living, and as we know,

  • the bones are the memory of the soul,
  • and memory exists in things which are ‘alive’….

The Crypts of Winterfell remember.

The Kings of Winter remember.

The Bones of Winter Remember.

While the living Starks have forgotten, the ‘dead’ Starks do not forget a thing. The dead Starks remember everything, even things which they never knew during their lifetime.

The enchanted crypts of Winterfell act as a network of knowledge, similar in the way weirwood trees share a collective consciousness, and as we know, the weirwoods retain memories of Westeros reaching farther back than any other living being or entity.

The roots of the weirwoods in the Godswood of Winterfell reach deep and are directly connected to the Kings of Winter in the crypts.

Upon burial of a Stark’s bones in the crypts under Winterfell, not only does the dead Stark’s consciousness return to him, living on in his bones, but he also absorbs the knowledge and memories of every other Stark buried down there as well, from the first King of Winter right up to, and including, Lyanna Stark herself. This is yet another aspect of ‘life’ existing in a ‘dead’ Stark.

The bones are the key to Stark resurrection.

Over 8000 years of memories and knowledge which was once lost, becomes known again, deep in the earth.

  • What is dead may never die, but rises harder, stronger.

The Stone Stark Giants in the crypts contain the spirits of the Starks and are very clearly conscious in the books. Down in the ground the stone Starks of Winterfell are watching, waiting, listening, alive, and drawing strength from the earth, much in the way the weirwoods are. The Kings of Winter have not forgotten a thing.

  • "The bones help," said Melisandre. "The bones remember.” – A Dance with Dragons, Melisandre I

Bones are the memory of the soul after all, and the Bones of Winterfell are stirring, as are the giant Stone Starks who sit upon their stone thrones in the ‘Valley of Bones’ deep beneath Winterfell … the stone giants, the giants the Horn of Winter will awaken.

The Stones of Winter remember.

ASOIAF Is there any significance or dual meaning behind the reason the bones of the Starks are buried in sepulchres in the crypts of Wint…

Since Hodor has translated to ‘Hold the door’ can ‘Azor Ahai’ be ‘Azure Eyes’ thereby making Brienne the Prince That Was Promised?

Interesting idea ! You actually had me laughing out loud.

Once the laughing stopped, well, Hold the Door/Hodor could be used as the event which set the precedent for further such word-play.

Then a certain quote from a Bran chapter early on in A Game Of Thrones popped into my mind, the one which describes Jon’s skin as cold and hard.

“Finally he looked north. He saw the Wall shining like blue crystal, and his bastard brother Jon sleeping alone in a cold bed, his skin growing pale and hard as the memory of all warmth fled from him.” – A Game of Thrones, Bran

And then the ‘blue eyed king who cast no shadow’ quote danced across my brain. This is what I cam up with:

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Does Daenerys or Viserys know that her/his great-great uncle Maester Aemon is alive, and does he know about them?

My answer to Does Daenerys or Viserys know that her/his great-great uncle Maester Aemon is alive, and does he know …

Answer by Ava Monroe:

Targaryens were once widely known to be able to communicate across far distances however Maester Aemon’s final days in the books seems to suggest the cold of the Wall acted as a block for Targaryen telepathy.

A Targaryen deep in the cold climates is cut-off from accessing other Targaryens, which could prove to be an interesting tid bit.

It is curious Maester Aemon dreams of Daenerys and dragons galore after leaving the coldness of the Wall. In the books Maester Aemon becomes aware of Daenerys only after leaving the Wall when he is travelling by ship with Sam, Gilley and the baby, although he passes not long after. He does comment the cold helps temper the fire and is likely the reason he lived so long, and it is the lack of cold that is likely the reason he dies so soon after entering warmer weather.

I can not recall anything to suggest either Daenerys or Viserys knew Maester Aemon Targaryen was still alive, or if they did, he wasn't a big topic or interest of theirs.

Thanks for the A2A 🙂

Does Daenerys or Viserys know that her/his great-great uncle Maester Aemon is alive, and does he know about them?

What does Cersei’s icy cold breath in Game of Thrones Season 7’s official promo mean?

Honestly I think it’s just D&D messing with us. An artistic way of showing Winter Is Here. Besides there is a pattern of misleading promo trailers, all is not what it seems so I am not taking it too seriously.

Although it did plant the idea of Cersei transitioning into Queen Cersei the White Walker – she does have the heart and temperament for it – however I am guessing (in the show) Daenerys will likely get her hands on Cersei before the Walkers do.

Who knows though …. anything is possible.

A pair of short spikey white frosty horns would hold up her crown ever so nicely 🙂

-Ava Monroe

What does Cersei’s icy cold breath in Game of Thrones Season 7’s official promo mean?

Would Daenerys, Jorah, Tyrion and Grey Worm believe Jon Snow when he tells them whats coming to Westeros?

My answer to Would Daenerys, Jorah, Tyrion and Grey Worm believe Jon Snow when he tells them whats coming to Wester…

Answer by Ava Monroe:

Absolutely.

Tyrion would believe Jon in a heartbeat. Both books and show do suggest a certain rapport exists between Tyrion and Jon, and Tyrion is a good read of character. Besides, he knows Jon is a moral compass intact Ned-type, not one to run around telling lies on any level. Tyrion is also an avid reader an has more then likely come across tales of White Walkers already. He did also spend some time with Lord Commander Mormont during his visit to Castle Black  and certainly appeared to believe the Old Bear’s worries about the White Walkers.

Jorah is of the North and I expect he definitely has heard all tales about the White Walkers throughout his life prior to his exile, and therefore I do not see any reason why he would question such news. Jorah does consistently show a fair amount of worldly knowledge and knows of the Dothraki legends regarding ghost grass and cold death sweeping across the land. Jorah will believe Jon.

Daenerys will believe once she sees Tyrion and Jorah do.

Grey Worm was originally from the Summer Isles – no shortage of strange and scary ways to die over there so hearing of an Army of Undead might not be such a far out idea to him. However he was taken at a very young age so he may not necessarily remember all the strange and wild things on the Summer Isles. Regardless, even if he was not open to believing Jon initially, Grey Worm is programmed to take orders so he would act as a believer soon enough.

Would Daenerys, Jorah, Tyrion and Grey Worm believe Jon Snow when he tells them whats coming to Westeros?

Who’s older, Robb Stark or Jon Snow?

My answer to Who’s older, Robb Stark or Jon Snow?

Answer by Ava Monroe:

As far as we know, Robb is, however there is a huge amount of grey area here, and more than enough wiggle room for Jon to be older:

  • We dont know if Catelyn’s pregnancy was 35 weeks or 42 weeks, she could have given birth to Robb at any point in that range – which is the average range for a pregnancy. That right there provides a 7–8 week birthing window.
  • We dont have specific dates on either Robb or Jon’s births – we know Robb was born in the early part of 282 yet Jon is said to have been born just days after the new year. There is no mention of a very early in the year birth of Robb.
  • We know Rhaegar left his wife and children early in the year following the tourney, which means there was more than enough time for Lyanna and Rhaegar to meet up and coinceive Jon, before Ned married Catelyn and before Catelyn was pregnant.
  • We dont have specific dates on how long Ned was gone – was it 11 months? 13 months? A year roughly, but that leave a good amount of wiggle room as well. We know Robb was already born when Ned returned, but we dont know if he was 4 weeks old or 2 months old.
  • We know Ned and Catelyn didn’t have sex until after they were married and Ned left approximately 2 weeks after their wedding – which would mean Catelyn ddn’t get pregnant until a few days before, or the day before, Ned left.
  • We know Lyanna was gone long before Ned’s wedding.
  • We dont know how far along in the pregnancy Lyanna was when she gave birth, we dont know if it was a natural birth or cesarean.
  • We know Lyanna is older than Ned thanks to those couple lines in the books, which means if the North acknowledges succession to include birth order and feamles, a child of Lyanna’s would inherit before any children of Ned’s. In present day Britian this is how inheritance now plays out when vying for the Crown.
  • Ned’s cover story of being the father forces Jon’s birth to be accepted as occurring after Robb, and moves Jon immediately out of competition with Robb for any Stark of Winterfell claim, which keeps Jon potentially in a ‘safer’ position.
  • Catelyn ast one point in the books has thoughts concering Jon heading to the Wall and

There are also a couple remarks from Catelyn in the books which could suggest the possibility Robb was younger:

  1. Maseter Luwin informs Ned and Catelyn that Jon wishes to go to the Wall and become a Sworn Brother of the Nights Watch. Ned is shocked and upset. Catelyn, however, thinks to herself….
  • “…… the perfect solution. Benjen Stark was a Sworn Brother. Jon would be a son to him, the child he never had. And in time the boy (Jon) would take the oath as well. He would father no sons who might someday contest with Catelyn’s own children for Winterfell.” –A Game Of Thrones, Catelyn II

Why is Catelyn even contemplating any thoughts around Jons sons contesting Robbs first born claim IF she believes Robb is older. This subtly suggests Catelyn may be suspicious on sone level that Jon is older, regardless of the cover story, this thought should not be in Catelyns head if Jon is in fact younger.

2) Here we have Catelyn recalling Robb as a baby ‘small, red-faced and squalling, strong even then’ when she handed Robb to her sister Lysa for the first time:

  • She remembered the first time she gave her sister Robb to hold; small, red-faced, and squalling, but strong even then, full of life. – A Storm of Swords, Catelyn I

Lysa was likely with Catelyn at the time she gave birth, since births were life and death experiences on a larger scale than they are today (generally speaking). If Lysa was not there at the birth she was likely there very soon afterwards, and for Robb to be described as ‘red-faced’ and ‘strong even then’ does suggest he was a full term baby. Premature babies are generally not referred to as ‘strong’ since the longer a baby is inside, the stronger he/she grows. This quote indicates Robb was likely not born early which moves his birth date back towards the later end of the birthing window time frame.

Adding all this up, the possibility of Jon being older appears to be a lot more than just a possibility. Those of you who have been following my posts know where I am going with this one …….

If Jon is older, and if women are recognized in succession in terms of birth order …. this is why the show has crowned Jon Snow as a bastard King in the North, because they dont want to give the book secret away ……

Jon was not only born a Targaryen King, Jon was also born a Stark King – King duality !!!

Jon Snow, Lord Snow of Winterfell, King in the North

Jon Snow, King of Winter !

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Thank you so very much Joanna Szulc for this A2A 🙂

Who’s older, Robb Stark or Jon Snow?

What is the prophecy regarding Jon Snow?

My answer to What is the prophecy regarding Jon Snow?

Answer by Ava Monroe:

Prophecy Duality – There is also another prophecy which Jon Snow fits into in addition to Azor Ahai:

Two kings to wake the dragon. The father first and then the son, so both die kings. – A Dance With Dragons, Jon I

So much duality in this series, it makes sense to have duality in prophecy regarding Jon Snow. It does not state in the books these two Kings who need to die in the prophecy must be Targaryen Kings, and there are two Stark Kings who died, first the father then the son, at the time Jon Snow was about to be born, perfect timing for a dragon to ‘rise again’, especially a Targaryen-Stark ‘dragon’.

Jon Snow, Azor Ahai, is also a ‘dragon’: an Ice & Fire made flesh ‘Dragon’ who shares the same flesh reaction to wounds as Daenerys dragons do, a Targaryen-Stark ‘dragon’ hybrid, and, I believe Jon is also the ‘dragon rising again’ in the prophecy. Here is why:

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Jon Snow: Two Kings to Wake the Dragon Prophecy – Stark Kings

I have not found anywhere in the books to indicate these Kings in the dragon rising again prophecy must be Targaryen, and since Jon is duality, ice and fire, it would fit if the prophecy contains an element of duality as well. Kings we typically associate with Targaryens (fire) in prophecy, Stark Kings however are associated with Jon and the North (ice).

  • Two kings to wake the dragon. The father first and then the son, so both die kings. The words had been murmured by one of the queen's men as Maester Aemon had cleaned his wounds. Jon had tried to dismiss them as his fever talking. Aemon had demurred. "There is power in a king's blood," the old maester had warned …. – A Dance With Dragons, Jon I

This quote above comes from a Jon chapter while he is up at the Wall in the North – details which I believe are relative to the interpretation of this prophecy, and likely a form of foreshadowing the ‘two kings’ are Northern Kings.

Regardless of the fact the Kings of Winter have been called the Kings in the North since the day Torrhen Stark bent the knee at the Trident, it is the ability to use the title ‘King of Winter’ which the Starks surrendered along with the crown of the Kings of Winter, yet the Starks and the secrets of Winterfell which have the ability to control winter, remain intact. So long as they do, they are, technically, still the Kings of Winter.

Therefore Rickard Stark was technically a King at the time of his death, the King of Winter. Brandon Stark, his son then became the King of Winter and was also killed by King Aerys II Targaryen very shortly after his father, fulfilling the two kings prophecy: Two kings to wake the dragon. The father first and then the son, so both die kings.

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Kill the Boy, Jon Snow

Now whether the dragon rising again begins on some level at the time of Jon’s birth into the world, or solely upon his resurrection rebirth later in the series can be up for debate. Duality runs deep in ASOIAF – I would vote both births are equally important and required for the dragon to rise again as Jon needs to exist in Westeros in order to kill the boy and rise again as a man, and ‘dragon’, as advised by Maester Aemon Targaryen:

  • "Allow me to give my lord one last piece of counsel," the old man had said, "the same counsel that I once gave my brother when we parted for the last time. He was three-and-thirty when the Great Council chose him to mount the Iron Throne. A man grown with sons of his own, yet in some ways still a boy. Egg had an innocence to him, a sweetness we all loved. Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I took ship for the Wall. It takes a man to rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy and let the man be born." The old man felt Jon's face. "You are half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think you have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let the man be born." – A Dance With Dragons, Jon II, Aemon Targaryen speaking to Jon

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Jon Snow Ice & Fire ‘Dragon’

Both Daenerys living dragons, the dragons back in The Princess and the Queen, and Jon Snow all exhibit the same ‘smoking wounds’ which I believe is a strong connection between fire breathing dragons and human Targaryen ‘Dragons’

Drogon

Here are a few quotes from A Dance with Dragons, Daenerys IX, showing Drogon being attacked and the reaction that occurs in his flesh when wounded:

  • His spear remained in Drogon's back, wobbling as the dragon beat his wings. Smoke rose from the wound.
  • His head turned. Smoke rose between his teeth. His blood was smoking too, where it dripped upon the ground. He beat his wings again, sending up a choking storm of scarlet sand. Dany stumbled into the hot red cloud, coughing. He snapped.
  • She remembered the dragon twisting beneath her, shuddering at the impacts, as she tried desperately to cling to his scaled back. The wounds were smoking.
  • …….blood was flowing from the wound where the spear had pierced him, smoking where it dripped onto the scorched sands. He is fire made flesh, she thought, and so am I. – Daenerys IX, ADWD

Jon Snow (Ice & Fire, Stark &Targaryen made Flesh ‘Dragon’)

Also in A Dance with Dragons, we have a brief description of Jon’s flesh reaction when stabbed by Nights Watch brothers:

  • Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. "For the Watch." He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it. Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger's hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. "Ghost," he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold … – A Dance With Dragons, Jon XIII

These smoking wound similarities between Drogon and Jon Snow indicates Jon has very unique and dragon specific traits. Combine that along with his Targaryen blood and Jon slides in nicely as a human ‘dragon’.

‘He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold…’ tells me this is on page proof of Jon’s death in the books. People who have died and come back often report being very cold and we know body temperature plummets upon death.

Prophecy Duality – Jon Snow, Azor Ahai, Stark-Targaryen, dragon-human hybrid

What is the prophecy regarding Jon Snow?

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